Showing posts with label postboxes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label postboxes. Show all posts

Sunday, 30 October 2022

Loughborough's letterboxes Pt 5

Last time in this letterbox series, we looked at EIIR pillar boxes in Loughborough, and before that in Parts 1-3, we investigated our anonymous box, the Victorian pillar boxes, and the EVIIRs, GRs, and GVIRs. Today, let's have a look at other types of letterboxes, like lampboxes and wallboxes, from across the years.

Wallboxes

One of our best wallboxes is the one on the Midland Mainline railway station, but sadly, it's only in view if you happen to be on Platform 1. I wonder how much use it gets, given that it's so well hidden?! Anyway, it's a beautiful VR box, although I can't tell who made it, as the photo I took some time ago is a bit blurry, and the box has been repainted so many times, the maker's mark has lost its definition.

The VR wallbox at the railway station on Platform 1

As far as I know we only have another two wallboxes, both of which carry the GR cipher, so they were installed between 1910 and 1936. 

The box in the wall at the bottom of Beeches Road, at its junction with Leicester Road, is on the side of the Lifestyle Express minimarket, which many will remember as Maher's Off-Licence, and which many years ago used to be the home of the Clemerson family, and was once known as the Paul Pry. The box was made by Derby Castings, which was the name used by the Handyside company, from Derby who made some of the pillar boxes we've seen in earlier posts. Derby Castings was operating from 1931-1933, so this box can be dated quite closely:


The GR wallbox at the bottom of Beeches Road

The other GR wallbox is pretty spectacular, and always well-looked after, and sometimes the crown is highlighted in gold. This is another wallbox at a railway station, although this one is at the Great Central Railway on Great Central Road, and unlike the one at the mainline station, this one is actually outside the station. This one was made by W. T. Allen.


The GR wallbox outside the GCR station in 2014

Detail of the maker's mark on the GR box outside the GCR station

Lampboxes

As you might expect from the name, the lampbox was originally designed to be attached to a lamppost, but very few today are, and are mostly supported on their own stick. They were initially placed in more rural areas, or areas where the volume of mail didn't warrant having a larger, pillar box. All the lampboxes I've found so far date from 1952-2022, and bear the EIIR cipher - except one! Most have been made by Carron, and one by Carronade, but there are a few where I haven't been able to identify the maker, while there is one that was made by Machan.

The ones on Manor Road, Meadow Lane at its junction with Ratcliffe Road (outside a corner shop that used to be a post office), Montague Drive, Nanpantan Road, Toothill Road at its junction with Cambridge Street (outside the corner shop), and the one on Woodhouse Lane, Nanpantan outside the Longcliffe Care Home, are all very, very similar, if not the same. Here's the one on Toothill Road:

Lampbox on Toothill Road at its junction with Cambridge Street

The lampbox on Park Road, at its junction with Bowling Green Way, and almost opposite what used to be a post office, is slightly different as the marker's mark (Carron) is a separate piece of metal, screwed into the box, rather than being embossed. This is also the case with the box on Tuckers Road, although the maker here is Machan:

Carron lampbox on Park Road at its junction with Bowling Green Way

Machan lampbox on Tuckers Road


Meanwhile, over on Highland Drive, a new type of lampbox has been installed - it has no maker's mark, seems to be made from a material other than cast iron, has a metal plate screwed in that says 'Royal Mail', and the royal cipher - EIIR - is a silver-coloured plate, attached separately. 


Lampbox on Highland Drive


Close-up of the Highland Drive lampbox

And here's the one that is different and to my mind, is far and away the most beautiful of the lampboxes I've come across! The lampbox in Woodthorpe comes the closest to its original support as I've seen - it's attached to the side of a wooden stake, rather than being on its own post. It carries the GR cipher, and therefore probably dates from between 1910 and 1936, and whereas most of the EIIR ones are an upright oblong shape, that round down towards the back, the Woodthorpe box is an upright oblong, with a curved top. Here's some pics that'll make more sense than my words!!!

The EIIR lampbox on Montague Road from the side




Woodthorpe GR lampbox attached to a post



  

A close-up of the Woodthorpe GR lampbox

A view of the Woodthorpe GR lampbox from the side


That's just about covered wallboxes and lampboxes! Pop back to the blog later, to find out about some quirky postboxes, and maybe a story about a rather special pillar box!

If you want to look back over earlier posts about Loughborough's letterboxes, here are the links:

Part 1 - the anonymous pillar box

Part 2 - the Victorian pillar boxes

Part 3 - pillar boxes 1910-1952 

Part 4 - EIIR pillar boxes

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Sunday, 9 October 2022

Loughborough's letterboxes, Pt 2

Last week we had a look at an interesting letterbox, of the pillar variety, in Loughborough, that did not have a royal cipher, known as an anonymous box. Ours has a low aperture for the insertion of letters, and is less common than those with a high aperture, and only around 200 of these remain in use. The low aperture also means we can date the box from between 1883, when the lower apertures came into use, and 1887, when the royal ciphers were included on the boxes. 

Most pillar boxes do carry a royal cipher. These range from VR for Queen Victoria (reigned 1837-1901), EVIIR for Edward VII (reigned 1901-1910), GR for George V (reigned 1910-1936), EVIIIR for the short reign of Edward VIII (1936), GVIR for George VI (reigned 1936-1952), to EIIR for Elizabeth II (reigned 1952-2022). Any new boxes installed since the death of the queen will carry the cipher of King Charles III, i.e. CIIIR.

We are lucky in Loughborough to have boxes of all ages scattered around, apart from those installed during the reign of Edward VIII. To be fair, there are only around 150 of these still in existence around the country, so it's not surprising that we don't have any.

In respect of pillar boxes, I've only managed to locate two that were installed during the reign of Queen Victoria, but I'm sure there must be more!!! Although these two boxes are essentially the same, both having a low aperture, both bearing the words POST OFFICE, each word being either side of the aperture, both bearing the VR cipher, collection plate with moulded surround, and both bearing a lock on the right-hand side of the box with a metal strip just about discernible along the door opening, there are two differences.

The box which stands on Forest Road, on the left-hand side of the road as you come towards the town centre, just after the Wood Brook ends, where the road becomes two-way, only has a collection plate, whereas the box on Moor Lane, at its junction with Trinity Street, also has a collection number holder, at the top and to the right of the collection plate.

The other difference is that the box on Forest Road used to have a directional arrow on its top, which pointed the way to the nearest post box. I don't think the Moor Lane box had one of these (but to be truthful, the boxes are taller than me so I can't quite see on top, unless there is something most definitely sticking up!!!)

Sadly, the boxes have been re-painted so often, or the metalwork has started to corrode, so it's difficult to read the name of the maker that appears on the bottom portion of these boxes. I have a feeling though, that the Forest Road box might say Handyside, but am really not sure about the Moor Lane box.

Here are the two boxes in question:

Moor Lane VR box taken in 2014 (apologies for the blurriness)

The Forest Road VR box in 2017

The Forest Road VR box in 2019

The Forest Road VR box base in 2019

Next week we'll investigate some of the other pillar boxes around town.

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Sunday, 2 October 2022

Loughborough's letterboxes, Pt 1

September seems to have flown away in no time at all, and left me wondering just what exactly has happened. I mentioned in an earlier post about some of the events that took place following the death of Queen Elizabeth II, and there has been much discussion in the media about what happens with coins and banknotes, and postage stamps, which carry a picture of the queen's head.

While I was out shopping the other day, I happened to notice a headline in one of the national daily newspapers, about the royal ciphers that are on [most] postboxes across the country (and in other countries like Guernsey etc.). I've always been interested in postboxes, and have been a member of the Letter Box Study Group for many years, so it had not occurred to me that there might be any mystery behind the inscription and wording that appears on the boxes. 

I've had a look through my photograph collection, and see that over the years I've taken many pictures of the postboxes in Loughborough, but not of all of them. So, I went out last week and took some pics of one specific postbox to share with you.

But first, perhaps I should say that the initials - sometimes intertwined, sometimes not - represent the initials of the monarch who was on the throne at the time the postbox was installed in its position. So, EIIR represents Queen Elizabeth II (where E is the initial of her first name, and R is for 'regina', meaning Queen, and II indicating that she was the second queen who had the name Elizabeth). You can see a similar cipher on the uniforms of the Beefeaters (Yeoman of the Guard). 

Briefly, you will find the initials VR on postboxes installed during the reign of Queen Victoria (reigned 1837-1901); EVIIR on those placed when Edward VII was on the throne between 1901 and 1910, where in this case, the R is for 'rex' or king. The cipher for George V, however, who reigned from 1910-1936, is simply GR. Edward VIII was only on the throne for 325 days, so there are not many postboxes in existence that bear the initials EVIIIR.

George VI reigned from 1936 until 1952, and postboxes installed during this period bear the cipher GVIR. Once Queen Elizabeth was crowned, new postboxes carried the EIIR cipher, and now that King Charles III has taken the throne, any new postboxes created will be identified with CIIIR.

Postboxes came into being in 1852, but there was no standardised design until 1859, and even then that standardised design was regularly changed. Some of the early postboxes were made by Andrew Handyside, whose ironfounding firm was based in Derby, but the first standardised ones, between 1859-1866, were made by a firm called Cochrane, probably at their Woodside works near Dudley. Cochrane also made the distinctive Penfold boxes, designed by architect J.W. Penfold, between 1866-1879.

Anyway, back to the specific postbox which is the subject of this blog! Our postbox was created between 1879 and 1887, and in the year 2000, there were 300 of these boxes still standing. These boxes are known as anonymous boxes, because they do not carry any royal cipher! The initials on these should have been VR, but the Post Office, who were responsible for the design, admitted there had been an oversight. These boxes were created by Handyside, at his Britannia Works in Derby. Despite not having any cipher on the front, the boxes do carry the name of the company around the base, although in many cases the box has been re-painted so many times, that the embossed lettering is difficult, and in some cases impossible to read.

Here are some pictures of our anonymous postbox which can be found at the mini roundabout that links Park Road, as it leaves Royland Road, to Beacon Road.



Handyside Derby appears on the base

The top of the postbox

Posting aperture and collection plate


Well, that's one Loughborough postbox covered, only another 60ish to go!!!

Here's a link to Part 2 of the Loughborough letterbox blogposts.

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Dyer, Lynne (2022). Loughborough's letterboxes Part 1. Available from: https://lynneaboutloughborough.blogspot.com/2022/10/loughboroughs-letterboxes-pt-1.html [Accessed 2 October 2022]

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